Mise à jour Gamebuino Meta

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Steph

NEW 4 years ago

Sorunome Sorunome

Ok... indeed, it seems that they only installed METAtris in their demo :-)

"to be able to modify that at all you'd need an external programmer controller".

Do you mean that it is impossible (for us, simple users) to install the official version of CircuitPython on META?

"we currently do not distribute binaries"

So you mean that, assuming that it is possible to install the official version of CircuitPython on META, it would be impossible for me to then return to the official Gamebuino program? I must admit, I'm a little shocked!

Sorunome

4 years ago

Do you mean that it is impossible (for us, simple users) to install the official version of CircuitPython on META?

Due to the different bootloader size, yes

So you mean that, assuming that it is possible to install the official version of CircuitPython on META, it would be impossible for me to then return to the official Gamebuino program? I must admit, I'm a little shocked!

Nah. Feel free to try out: your meta will crash and load back the loader from the sd card with no damage done. Either that or it freezes, in which case you double-click the reset button, also loading the loader.bin

Thierry

NEW 4 years ago

So what I read here is : if you have problem, with a device made for learning, you fully depends on us.

I own devices that are 20+ old and I am more than concerned by proprietary locking. 

Let's resume:

  • no source access to several pieces, including CircuitPython which is an open source project itself.
  • no access at least to binaries to restore the Meta by myself
  • documentation, tutorials and help handled on a large part by the community

Please, tell me I'm wrong, this project has such a wonderful potential...

Sorunome

4 years ago

  • no source access to several pieces, including CircuitPython which is an open source project itself.

Which all several pieces do you mean? As for CircuitPython, as previously announced, we are working on releasing the source code of our fork soon!

Sorunome

NEW 4 years ago

Steph Steph

Do you mean that it is impossible (for us, simple users) to install the official version of CircuitPython on META?

Due to the different bootloader size, yes

So you mean that, assuming that it is possible to install the official version of CircuitPython on META, it would be impossible for me to then return to the official Gamebuino program? I must admit, I'm a little shocked!

Nah. Feel free to try out: your meta will crash and load back the loader from the sd card with no damage done. Either that or it freezes, in which case you double-click the reset button, also loading the loader.bin

Sorunome

NEW 4 years ago

Thierry Thierry

  • no source access to several pieces, including CircuitPython which is an open source project itself.

Which all several pieces do you mean? As for CircuitPython, as previously announced, we are working on releasing the source code of our fork soon!

Aurélien Rodot

NEW 4 years ago

Hey everybody, I confirm that we will open source circuit python for Gamebuino soon, as previously announced. You will be able to fork it, update it, tweak it and do whatever you want with it. 

Don't worry about the bootloader, as Soru said, it's close to indestructible. If you manage to brick your Gamebuino, we'll be happy to help you restoring it (and prevent this from happening again hehe).

I heard your requests, be reassured, we are here for you before anything else. We work hard every day to improve things based on your feedback. Remember, though, that we're a handful of passionate hobbyist, not a 200 persons company. That is why you, the community, are the greatest strength of Gamebuino.

For that very reason, we are working on opening what needed be for you to have fun and learn, while being careful about low cost counterfeits to keep the project sustainable.

I hope that this answers your questions in the way you expected, don't hesitate if I'm unclear.

Thank you all for being here.

Peace.

Thierry

NEW 4 years ago

Just a quick message to reassure you that I perfectly understand and respect the work and efforts you've made so far. 

I always tries to be positive and respectful. If not 99% of the time it's some lack of english, the last 1% is me being a dumbass ????

I'll come back later with more, but please, even with the amount of work you handle, please, please, try to have a word or two more often here and on Discord.

With all my maker love.

Aurélien Rodot

4 years ago

Understood, I'll do my best !

Aurélien Rodot

NEW 4 years ago

Thierry Thierry

Understood, I'll do my best !